The Battle Over a North Carolina Beach Continues
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"newspaper hacks"...Ted, Meet the Kettle...
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 2012/09/05 - 5:45am.
From the last few retorts, it seems a few people must have hit a nerve with you, Ted. Get yourself together, man. To address your "critical habitat" claim, I distinctly remember reading an Audubon article a few years back that deemed the entire CHNS as "critical" by one of your own researchers. I'll see if I can dig that up. However, there were numerous other agencies that affirmed that particular area to hold some of the last known native (I know that's a hard word for you, Ted) vegetation in and around the seashore. Furthermore, Ida Phillips never cared to comment on anything concerning the Pine Island sale. I know the public would love to hear how the land was donated under the assertion (actually in the deed, I believe) that it would never be used for anything other than a wildlife preserve. Oh the silly dreams of a philanthropist!
Unfortunately, I have to go to work now, but don't fret, I really want to us to delve into Audubon's mantra of "Drill Baby Drill." Maybe NAS is looking to deal with oil companies now? Ha ha, of course, those would be in the name of donations I'm sure because NAS is a non-profit organization, right Ted (wink). I wonder what other environmental organizations, particularly DOWL, feel about the fact that Audubon has "never opposed drilling?"
Stretching
Submitted by Ted Williams (not verified) on Wed, 2012/09/05 - 8:42am.
Hey. Thanks for reading Audubon. You are really stretching when you attempt to critique my piece on the Cape Hatteras National Seashore with a statement that you can’t cite by another “researcher” who you think may once have said something in the magazine where I sell my freelance material. And you back up this nonsensical argument with talk of Pine Island which I didn’t mention in the piece, and then you go fishing in southern LA. LOL. No mainstream environmental outfit has ever opposed all drilling. If you know one, let's hear it.
CHNSRA
Submitted by Mike (not verified) on Tue, 2012/09/04 - 7:56pm.
When did National Parks become wildlife preserves? The actual name for Cape Hatteras is Cape Hatteras National Seashore Recreational Area as authorized by Congress. Let's carry Audubon's argument to it's natural conclusion that all National Parks be designated "primitive wilderness" and be closed to all public use. This is what you are advocating. This however would put the big Audubon money machine out of business (more than 300 million in the bank) since suing private landowners is far more difficult as they don't "rollover" like NPS.
Primitive Wilderness
Submitted by Ted Williams (not verified) on Tue, 2012/09/04 - 8:59pm.
Mike: In answer to your first question national parks became wildlife preserves in 1916 when the National Park Service was mandated by law (its Organic Act) to “conserve the scenery and the natural and historic objects and WILD LIFE therein and to provide for the enjoyment of the same in such manner and by such means as will leave them UNIMPAIRED for the enjoyment of future generations.” Why do you imagine that Audubon’s argument is to designate national parks as “primitive wilderness”? We didn’t designate the Cape Hatteras Seashore as primarily “primitive wilderness.” Congress did in 1937 when it enacted The Cape Hatteras National Seashore Enabling Legislation which provides that "except for certain portions of the area, deemed to be especially adaptable for recreational uses…the area shall be permanently reserved as a PRIMITIVE WILDERNESS and no development of the project or plan for the convenience of visitors shall be undertaken which would be incompatible with the preservation of the unique flora and fauna or the physiographic conditions now prevailing in this area."
Ladies and Gentlemen of the
Submitted by A. K. Matthews (not verified) on Tue, 2012/09/04 - 1:50pm.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Audubon !
It is my pleasure to tell you the truth, it is at your pleasure to recieve or deny the truth.
I, my son and 26 other father and sons have enjoyed and perserved our God Given right to explore, fish, break bread and spend time with our sons from the time they were five years of age to now 25 at the Hatteras Sea shore. Part of this trip was to yes enjoy the outer banks, to drive on the beach...to take pictures of the beautiful scenery and of course to encage in God's creation and demonstrate to our children that it is right to take of our wildlife (fishing) but to only catch what is legal and what we intend to feed upon. These lessons are portrayed well in an area with thousands of others to witness being good stewards of the outdoors and good examples for our kids to observe. I have witness so many hundres and hundreds of great examples from outerbanks fishermen...so many examples of caring for the widlife...they really enforce one another and assist in protecting what an organization truly cannot protect. So we advance the issues that are important to what I think an enviornmentalist wants, maybe the gap is the extremist ....and if so let's don't destroy in order to counter actions most likely taken by a few. And yes I also include you under the catagory of destroying something.
I close with this , we are going down again this 2nd. week end in November....please join us and stay with us for four days and three nights.....send one group father and son, we welcome you only for the purpose of enjoying each others comradery as well as each being a witness to the point I am making. Your point will also be well listened.
My phone number is 252.908.7285 we will provide the food and friendship. Hope to hear from you soon.
I think your magazine will finish the trip with a great story worth publishing...
Deny What?
Submitted by Ted Williams (not verified) on Tue, 2012/09/04 - 5:47pm.
Not sure what you’ve written that you think we might “deny” unless you are trying to imply that God had a hand in the Park Service’s misfeasance that we put an end to in 2008. If so, you should understand that He didn’t “give” anyone the right to drive over wildlife and destroy wildlife habitat. In fact, four federal statutes specifically forbid it. I probably have witnessed just as many examples of “good stewards of the outdoors and good examples for our kids to observe” as you have. In fact, I reported that fact in the piece.
There is no proof of ORVs
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2012/09/04 - 7:28pm.
There is no proof of ORVs running over wildlife or ruining habitat at CHNSRA. Your statement is a lie. The only thing Audubon did in 2008 was get NPS in trouble for not having a properly registered ORV management plan. Your organization and SELC jumped at the chance to sue the NPS.
Deny What?
Submitted by Ted Williams (not verified) on Tue, 2012/09/04 - 5:47pm.
Not sure what you’ve written that you think we might “deny” unless you are trying to imply that God had a hand in the Park Service’s misfeasance that we put an end to in 2008. If so, you should understand that He didn’t “give” anyone the right to drive over wildlife and destroy wildlife habitat. In fact, four federal statutes specifically forbid it. I probably have witnessed just as many examples of “good stewards of the outdoors and good examples for our kids to observe” as you have. In fact, I reported that fact in the piece.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the
Submitted by A. K. Matthews (not verified) on Tue, 2012/09/04 - 1:50pm.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Audubon !
It is my pleasure to tell you the truth, it is at your pleasure to recieve or deny the truth.
I, my son and 26 other father and sons have enjoyed and perserved our God Given right to explore, fish, break bread and spend time with our sons from the time they were five years of age to now 25 at the Hatteras Sea shore. Part of this trip was to yes enjoy the outer banks, to drive on the beach...to take pictures of the beautiful scenery and of course to encage in God's creation and demonstrate to our children that it is right to take of our wildlife (fishing) but to only catch what is legal and what we intend to feed upon. These lessons are portrayed well in an area with thousands of others to witness being good stewards of the outdoors and good examples for our kids to observe. I have witness so many hundres and hundreds of great examples from outerbanks fishermen...so many examples of caring for the widlife...they really enforce one another and assist in protecting what an organization truly cannot protect. So we advance the issues that are important to what I think an enviornmentalist wants, maybe the gap is the extremist ....and if so let's don't destroy in order to counter actions most likely taken by a few. And yes I also include you under the catagory of destroying something.
I close with this , we are going down again this 2nd. week end in November....please join us and stay with us for four days and three nights.....send one group father and son, we welcome you only for the purpose of enjoying each others comradery as well as each being a witness to the point I am making. Your point will also be well listened.
My phone number is 252.908.7285 we will provide the food and friendship. Hope to hear from you soon.
I think your magazine will finish the trip with a great story worth publishing...
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Hatteras Landing has had
Hatteras Landing has had trouble keeping a number of different business viable since it opened, before the consent decree. Hatteras village is maxed out with the number of restaurants it can support. Old established restaurants shut their doors in Hatteras Village long before the current resource restrictions. There are a number of restaurants closer to where the majority of visitors are staying in Buxton and Avon that are doing just fine. The Pilot house has been out of business for 10 years or more.
There is little substantive information in what your claiming. Location, weather and road access, the national economy and competition are the overwhelming factors if a business makes it or not on HI.